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And That's a Wrap
Sun May 30, 2010 12:18 am by Kami
This website is now officially closed. All topics must be finished, and all character must register on the New Website All ranking exams will be finished and ranked by a seperate proctor, and all money will be reset to $200 for everyone in order to make way for the new currency system, coming soon.

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Your Site-Moving Questions, Answered~!
Wed May 26, 2010 3:12 pm by Kami
We've been getting a good amount of questions regarding the move and the time skip that the move will created for all characters. So here are a few general questions, along with their answers, and of course feel free to post any more concerns you have here.


Q: What abilities or weapons will we be able to add or expand on?
A: Not a whole lot, honestly. I'd say a few improvements on what you already have, but not by a lot, as well as maybe one or two new techniques. Let's not do a major overhaul, because that would then disrupt your rank, which will not change in the move. As for weapons, …

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Inari
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PostSubject: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:53 pm

i have an idea for people so people can get ranked faster. i say there be a realm called the vally of trials where any guild member gos to get a rank. an here any one can be the proctor..... an if it dos not sound to dumb maybe there be a point sytem where we have a list of elements on you sig an you show what elements you been focusing on more. like heres a quick example.

i have 40 points to spend.

fire: i put 20 points in to this
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earth: i pout 20 points in to this. now i have the ability to use lava tech


i know wierd an just a random idea
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:04 pm

It doesn't seem very practical imo. How would you decide how many points you have and what's the point of em?
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:07 pm

If this valley was created, what would be the point of the guilds any more, all the people would go there to rank instead of the guilds.....
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:10 pm

there would be a set amount of points per rank an the more points in a element means what you can do an also how strong your attack in said element. an if you are high enough in some elements you have an imunity to the element say like i have 80 points in fire. any one whit fire teachs used againest me wouldnt hurt me. but if they person had 100in fire to my 80 i would have a slight burn.


well it more for the fact some guild have members whos want to rank. like my self.... but no one with free time in there guild to rank them.. also this alous for some one of high rank who is bored gets to beat the newblets around the training grounds.
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:19 pm

i know this really doesn't fit into this but i was thinking shouldn't a certain amount of training allow you to rank up I'm talking some real training with detailed and long posts not some four liner post a day that people say is training this way real rpers can practice and hone their skills within training and possibly rank up after enough

and due to the fact that they would have to be long and detailed posts someone who doesn't want to fight and thinks it will be easy to train with inadequate posts will get shut down by admin like the admin could easily tell who deserves a rank up for extreme training or if someone deserves a quick shut down for trying to do some easy BS
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:39 pm

umm tsuna they did say you could train but you still need a ranking exam cuase you need to be pitted againest some one to see how powerful you are...
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:44 pm

yea they did but i thought i would run this by everyone as that system is really slow
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:48 pm

We've had similar ideas run past about training and points....the only problem is that everone trains different, and receives different things from it....it wouldn't be fair if someone trained and had the potential to become a 4th rank when in points they only received a 6th or 5th rank...or on the flip side, if they trained only a little, and were given a rank without any test to see if they were really better for it, like Inari said....

Also, with the points and elements and things, what if you don't use elements....? Or what if according to your moves your really good with a certain element, yet don't have enough points to show that.....? I try and shy away from points, as it sets everything in stone too much....we want to have some freedom as far as character development and stuff, etc....

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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:52 pm

but didnt you see some one was complaining people was using to stong of moves... i thought it would be a good idea...
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:57 pm

Now I dont mean this to sound harsh, and I do like suggestions, but perhaps can we trust that the tried-and-true systems in place actually work instead being impatient and trying to butt around the system? Learn the systems we have in place; they are there for a reason. Work with them, instead of complaining about them. Trying to work out different systems always gets more confusing and never works. Trust me, its been tried before. Dont try and change the system cause you dont like something about it. Deal with it and dont complain just like everyone else does.

Now as I said, I dont mean to be harsh, and I tried not to sound pushy or anything. And I dont discourage suggestions, but when we've told you several times how it works and all, dont keep bringing it up like someone hasnt said something, cause then it gets annoying.

Inari, ideas are always good, and we all tend to trust characters to use theyre abilities fairly and with respect to ranks. If not, its the job of us admins to deal with it, and let us know if you think something needs our attention.

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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:01 pm

Well, yes its a good idea to keep a cap as far as ranks and stuff, but still not a good idea to totally strangle it with point system....I mean then two people of the same rank might always have the exact same power as far as attacks, which again, might not be elemental in every case....people have different powers....plus the fact that that's what the guilds are mainly for....ranking....

Plus, it just puts more strain on the mods and admins to keep track of everyone, and make sure that everyone is being honest....and among the other things they are suppose to do, this would just bog them down more....

Although I do agree and give you credit for suggesting a system to help keep people from being too overpowered.....I would have to say a point system is a hard way to do it.......

EDIT: or what Taz said....XD

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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:02 pm

Mm Id agree completely with Falx there.

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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:56 am

The one thing you (new people) all are not getting, is that ranking up is supposed to take a while. People who are even a 6th rank have worked hard for it, much less people like Rose and Unknown who've been working on their characters for almost a year now. It's foolish to expect instant gratification.

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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:12 pm

Over a year thank you very much xp And cosign with Tazmania.

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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:14 pm

Why take a while if someone has the skill to go up now sure some have worked hard and gotten better but if someone is already on the level of someone who has worked hard why should they wait? i'm not talking about tech and power wise but people here seem to think rank means everything

While i agree the higher ranked you are the better techs and powers you have but this does not mean a lower rank can't win if a rank 1 person is a terrible rper and has no tactics a rank 7 who uses tactics and is a good rper could defeat them people here seem to think that the ranks mean everything when clearly they dont

They play a vital role in the system i understand but i think that some should realize they arent everything and back to the main point if someone has the skill to rank now why should they wait? i think they shouldnt have to of course this is merely my opinion but i think if one has the skill they should be allowed to progress as quickly as they can if someone wants to work a year on their chars they can but not everyone wants to do such a thing

Just because someone ranks in a year does not mean they have worked hard it could merely mean they did not have the skill to rank in a week like someone else and those who rank in a week are moving much faster because they have the skill to rank as such why should we hold them back?
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:21 pm

It's called an extensive story and the fact that you simply are at that level. Can't expect to become a superpowered hero or whatever when the day before you were a common soldier. I get that you think you're the best RPer the Internet has ever seen, but these things have to make sense. I'm not saying you -can't- beat someone a couple ranks higher than you, but it's -unlikely-, just because they have more energy/strength than you. Respect that please.
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:31 pm

True Lulubell. I remember back when Xenovirus was 7th rank on the Depths and gave me a very difficult time, and I was a 3rd rank! Your moves and powers don't decide the damn battle, its intellect, experience and patience. you can be some, Iono, cosmic calamity with all devil fruit powers, power cosmic, a bagillion unnecessary transformations and the ability to come back from the dead, and STILL get your ass whooped. And this HAS been proven and done before not once, but twice.

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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:33 pm

i will politely ask you not assume i think i am the best as i can name several people right off the bat that are better then me at rping and i am not saying that one can skip from rank 7 to rank 1 in a day but if someone wants to rank up once they get here why can they not? you have drifters or people who disassociate themselves from the guilds while they are in them and allow them to rank while they don't have much of a story behind them there are also ambitious chars within the rp that may want to become the best as quickly as possible to be recognized by others so because these chars are ambitious they cannot rank whenever they wish to? they must wait? as a result people tend to get bored without a goal or if their goal is a year away

What can they do within a year? or a month? Training here is pointless except to make new techs or attacks other then that training is useless for people who don't need more techs or need their rank higher to learn the techs as a result you stunt their growth in skill one can only get better by rping with other better then them or those who are on an equal level while everyone may be rank 7 that doesn't mean their skill is all the same level sure they can rp with the higher ranks in topics but most here believe their ranks make them unbeatable to the lower ranks so it is rather pointless and also to your last comment about strength and energy if one does not waste their energy and strength it is easy to avoid being overpowered by someone with more then them it is called strategy and it tends to be very effective so effective that it can balance many things out such as speed and power differences

someone can have one hundred different powers against someone with just one power yet the person with one power can win with the right plan power and strength help but only if one uses it correctly
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:42 pm

of course all the people of the same rank aren't equal in strength, that's where the "intelligence" comes into play. No one is saying you can't go and do a ranking exam, we're saying just cause you make an exam doesn't mean your going to rank. Alot of things are taken into consideration before one can rank. NOT ONLY THE POWER AND MOVES...but their intelligence, how they can use their own abilities, how they can work when pushed to their limit, how they spell their words and grammar, how they treat the proctor, etc. Its not as simple as "I'm stronger than the average bear, so I up one" No. if that's your mentality, then you'll fail.

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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:44 pm

I never said they couldn't beat someone higher ranked than they are. But I wish you'd stop assuming that doing so were that easy just because you have "strategy". Everyone has their own way of doing battle, and it's downright egotistical to think your method is the best.

My initial problem with you in particular, Tsuna, is that you seem to assume that you're better than everyone on the site, and that you deserve some kind of special treatment. It's perfectly feasable to attempt a ranking exam when you first get here; many people do just that and a coupe make it to 6th rank on their first day. Your blatant comments saying that you could skip ahead of everyone else, and easily beat Ayaka, a 3rd rank, was downright disrespectful.

The main point of this website is not to see how far you can skip and become the top character, it's to make a name and a story for yourself in this universe, a hodgepodge of different Anime series and make your experience your own. A saga, persay. We even have a Civilian class for people who want to stay out of the Shonen business altogether.

Make more sense now?
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:51 pm

i never stated i could easily beat ayaka i stated that if my plan went correctly it was over in which case it would have been i never said she couldnt defeat me or get out of the plan please get you facts straight ^^ and i never said my style was the best and as for experience what can you experience when so many players here believe rank is everything? if rank is everything to players here it cancels out the point in rping with them as you get no experience except to learn that rank is everything from them

I dont expect any special treatment or anything like that and i dont want to become the top char here i merely wish to rank to the third rank and then i am done ranking as i have stated to several people on this site before so do not assume that is my goal please ^^ you seem to be aiming your comments at me more then you are aiming them at the subject at hand i believe our personal dislike of me is clouding your judgement on this discussion
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:55 pm

The subject at hand has already been dismissed, I'm simply trying to put you in the know of how our website operates. All I have left to say to you is that I already stated most people only look at rank as relatively how powerful and distinguished they are in combat. As a reference to see how difficult defeating them will be with relation to your own rank. Otherwise, with social RP and such, it means little.
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PostSubject: Re: ranking trails...   Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:09 pm

The English language has a wonderful thing called PUNCTUATION, I think it wise to use it sometime. Other than that, Lucy simply states all the things IVE ALREADY TOLD YOU. SEVERAL TIMES. And Im tired of repeating myself. So can we stfu about this please?

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